Played by: Andy
Game II Core Wave: "Ancient Ideas in Modern
Times" or "Time Transcendent Ideas."
there are ripples in water
a drop of water at the center of a pond causes the toy boat at
the edge to rock
" but what about events in the future? can they cause changes in the past? "
RB. Fuller realized there are no things, only actions - hence, "I seem to be a verb!" The slowest rivers appear as still lakes or ponds, but even these flow, downhill/through time. Self contained water systems are oceanic, displaying circulation/flow when observed at the appropriate scale. Universe at rest is self-contradiction.
In a river, a wave event is propagated preferentially downstream/into the future/with the flow. Human activity scales to a grain of sand in a rapidly flowing mountain stream. Splashing in Baton Rouge makes no wave in St. Louis.
Accepting Tao flow leads to (tai chi)Chuan; eight men in a boat have no oars and flow effortlessly into the future, perfectly poised on the eternal now. -- Jonathan Byron
What we know about the past is our perception of it. Therefore events in the future can change our perception of the past, but not the actual past. While this may seem simple it is not; almost all of us take our perceptions of the past to be the past. While events in the past are usually easily-supported facts, the reasons for these events are not definite and are therefore interpreted more freely. While we may not know why JFK was killed, or even who killed him, we do know that he was shot and is dead.
Applying this to your example of a ripple in a pond rocking a toy boat, we may in the future find out that the ripple was actually caused by the motion of the toy boat itself, and therefore no longer name the ripple as the cause of the boat's motion. We instead see the true cause as the boat itself, thereby changing our idea as to why the boat rocked, but none the less it still rocked. -- Carey Radebaugh
i thank you i forgot that wrap-around theory i see in your idea the toy boat can and most possibly will rock itself but it is hard to distinguish the drop of waters ripple from the toy boats' -- Andy
try switching your mind stop thinking real try thinking about the mind got it? foreshadowing, soothing, i dont care how you put it but people ARE affected by the future in the present even moreso in the past ripples bounce back to the orignal point of origin -- Andy
Hi Andy, You rock. You still rock. You always rock. So anyway speaking of rocking the boat, your move immediately reminded me of a new physics theory I heard about. Bear with me because this is going to be very loose and I may not get the exact wordings right but I'll get an approximation of the idea across.
The guy is John G. Cramer and his idea as I understand it goes something like this
There is a mathematical formula in quantum physics and part of the formula implies information moving backwards through time. This aspect of the formula has always been considered just a fluke to be ignored but it must be kept in because this part of the formula is necessary to make the formula balance out and work.
Cramer has suggested if you take the implication seriously all the quantum weirdness (simultaneous dead and alive cats, etc.) disappears.
I will link Cramer's web site below because you shouldn't take my laymen's description to literally. However, I think it is valuable to know that continuously the world of science is discovering that it is the same world as the world of spirituality. John G. Cramer is also a great science (and science fiction writer) and he can make complicated ideas understandable. See the link to his articles in Analog magazine. -- Robert C. Cohen
Foucault's Pendulum pt. 32:
"The basic element of the transactional interpretation (TI)is an emitter-absorber transaction through the exchange of advanced and retarded waves, as first described by Wheeler and Feynman (1945, 1949) [see also (Feynman, 1967b)]. Advanced waves are solutions of the electromagnetic wave equation and other similar wave equations which contain only the second time derivative. Advanced waves have characteristic eigenvalues of negative energy and frequency, and they propagate in the negative time direction." -- John Cramer
"We will find that the TI, which is objective and explicitly nonlocal... provides a description of the state vector as an actual wave physically present in real space." -- John Cramer
--Robert C. Cohen